Saucony Endorphin Trainer

jogoncrago reports the Saucony Endorphin Trainer has a bottom layer of Power Run rubberized EVA foam, which he describes as very very firm, dense.

jogoncrago says Saucony has Incred Run foam and decided to pair it with one of the worst midsole foams on the market, Powerrun standard, which he calls a brick so firm they are using it as an outsole.

Marathon Handbook finds that the lower bottom layer of dense Power Run foam makes the Endorphin Trainer slower and a bit more clunky.

Yowana observes the Saucony Endorphin Trainer uses a heavier, firmer EVA foam on the bottom and one of the most exciting foams of the year, the Incred, on the top.

Matt from Doc Running states that the Saucony Endorphin Trainer has half INCRED (the soft foam used in the Endorphin Elite 2) and half of their traditional EVA foam blend, which he describes as more balanced than the full-INCRED Endorphin Elite 2.

Runnertia states he never actually ran in the Saucony Endorphin Trainer, partially put off by the bottom layer of firm EVA.

jogoncrago finds the Saucony Endorphin Trainer does not have speed, efficiency, or that bouncy feeling expected from a $320 shoe.

jogoncrago finds the Saucony Endorphin Trainer is not efficient; it is heavy, does not have much super foam for energy return, and the carbon plate is not aggressive enough to give a leverage effect through the forefoot.

jogoncrago states the Saucony Endorphin Trainer is not an efficient shoe at all.

Marathon Handbook does not find the Endorphin Trainer to be very propulsive for a big super trainer.

Marathon Handbook states the Endorphin Trainer did not quite have the speed or the cushioning that he thinks a big bulky super shoe should have.

Yowana speculates the issue with the Saucony Endorphin Trainer is that it is not a speed shoe, akin to evaluating the Nimbus with expectations of it being the Mega Blast; people came into it with warped expectations that it would be a super fast, versatile speed weapon.

Yowana summarizes the Saucony Endorphin Trainer as having fun bounce and long-run capability — not the fastest shoe out there, but a really fun ride.

Marathon Handbook finds the Endorphin Trainer was not comfortable.

Marathon Handbook observes that the Endorphin Trainer hurt his legs when he tried it on a couple times.

jogoncrago finds the Saucony Endorphin Trainer is a comfortable mileage shoe with a little bit of squish on step-in and a nice rubbery dense rebound from underneath.

Yowana finds the Saucony Endorphin Trainer was not liked by a lot of people when it came out, but the reviewer actually really liked it, and everyone he knows who has tried it who is not a running shoe reviewer has liked it.

Yowana finds the Saucony Endorphin Trainer is exciting with some stability, feels very protective, is super easy to run in like the Vomero Premium, and feels much lighter on foot.

Yowana observes that while the Vomero Premium can feel like slightly too much shoe or overkill for some people, the Endorphin Trainer does not give that feeling — it just gives a nice assisted feel with a lot of bounce from the Incred foam.

jogoncrago states the Saucony Endorphin Trainer is now down to half price, about $160 here in Australia.

jogoncrago believes there is a pretty good case for picking up the Saucony Endorphin Trainer on discount.

jogoncrago states the Saucony Endorphin Trainer at $160 right now should be considered if you are racking up mileage, like a max cushion shoe with a smooth transition and more protection, and want to experience Incred Run foam without paying $420 for the Endorphin Elite.

jogoncrago says $160 for the Saucony Endorphin Trainer is cheaper than most budget trainers and would be a pretty decent pickup.

Yowana finds the Saucony Endorphin Trainer is a $150 alternative to the Nike Vomero Premium.

Yowana observes Saucony cut the price of the Endorphin Trainer to $150 because it got terrible reviews and was not a shoe that was loved when it came out.

Yowana notes a discount code on Running Warehouse can bring the Saucony Endorphin Trainer down to $135, making it $100 cheaper than the Vomero Premium.

Marathon Handbook states they dinged the Endorphin Trainer on value because they found it to be expensive.

Marathon Handbook states it seems like the rest of the world got tired of the Endorphin Trainer too.

Marathon Handbook states the Endorphin Trainer never really caught on.

jogoncrago notes the Saucony Endorphin Trainer does not seem to have done super well, which he says he predicted.

Yowana observes Saucony cut the price of the Endorphin Trainer to $150 because it got terrible reviews and was not a shoe that was loved when it came out.

Yowana finds the Saucony Endorphin Trainer was not liked by a lot of people when it came out, but the reviewer actually really liked it, and everyone he knows who has tried it who is not a running shoe reviewer has liked it.

jogoncrago finds the Saucony Endorphin Trainer upper fit is good and lockdown is good.

Yowana finds the Saucony Endorphin Trainer has a great upper, one of the best in the game, with a nice stretchy material that breathes well.

Marathon Handbook states that the Endorphin Trainer is for easy and long runs.

jogoncrago agrees that the Saucony Endorphin Trainer is probably designed for everyday training runs and thinks you could soak up a fair bit of mileage in it.

kofuzi describes the Endorphin Trainer as 'now kind of the daily trainer in this [Endorphin] capsule'.

Yowana speculates the issue with the Saucony Endorphin Trainer is that it is not a speed shoe, akin to evaluating the Nimbus with expectations of it being the Mega Blast; people came into it with warped expectations that it would be a super fast, versatile speed weapon.

Yowana summarizes the Saucony Endorphin Trainer as having fun bounce and long-run capability — not the fastest shoe out there, but a really fun ride.

Marathon Handbook states the Endorphin Trainer is usable for long runs and tempo runs.

jogoncrago describes the Saucony Endorphin Trainer as kind of blocky, kind of clumpy through the heel compression, without a fast nimble feel to make you want to pick up the pace.

Marathon Handbook finds that the lower bottom layer of dense Power Run foam makes the Endorphin Trainer slower and a bit more clunky.

Marathon Handbook perceives the Endorphin Trainers as clunky under his foot but not overly heavy, which he says saves them.

Marathon Handbook prefers the Ride over the Endorphin Trainer, stating 'I like them better than the endorphin trainers'.

Marathon Handbook opines that 'I almost feel like I could run faster in the rides [than the Endorphin Trainers]'.

Marathon Handbook states that if looking for a max trainer that can do everything, he would rather go with something like the Superblast or the On Cloudmonster Hyper.

jogoncrago believes the Saucony Endorphin Trainer should have been a better model at the $320 price point to compete with the likes of the Magblast, Superblast, Cloudmonster Hyper, and new Chinese products.

Yowana finds the Saucony Endorphin Trainer was not liked by a lot of people when it came out, but the reviewer actually really liked it, and everyone he knows who has tried it who is not a running shoe reviewer has liked it.

Yowana finds the Saucony Endorphin Trainer is exciting with some stability, feels very protective, is super easy to run in like the Vomero Premium, and feels much lighter on foot.

Yowana finds the Saucony Endorphin Trainer is not a super slow shoe; he did marathon pace repeats (4x2 mile workout) in it out of the box, which he would not do in the Vomero Premium, because high-stack shoes with a lot of foam can hurt his hip and throw off mechanics.

Yowana finds the Saucony Endorphin Trainer can handle fast paces, including 5:50/mile repeats, especially if a runner's speed paces are more in the 8:00–9:00/mile range.

Marathon Handbook finds the Endorphin Trainer was too hard.

Marathon Handbook finds the Endorphin Trainer was not comfortable.

Marathon Handbook observes that the Endorphin Trainer hurt his legs when he tried it on a couple times.

Marathon Handbook does not find the Endorphin Trainer to be very propulsive for a big super trainer.

jogoncrago finds the Saucony Endorphin Trainer does not have speed, efficiency, or that bouncy feeling expected from a $320 shoe.

jogoncrago measured the Saucony Endorphin Trainer weight at 300 g in his men's size 10.5.

jogoncrago finds 300 g is heavy for shoes these days.

jogoncrago states the weight of the Saucony Endorphin Trainer is more than most daily trainers.

jogoncrago finds the Saucony Endorphin Trainer is not fast, not light, and feels too bulky.

Marathon Handbook finds the Endorphin Trainer a little bit heavy but also moderately powerful.

Marathon Handbook perceives the Endorphin Trainers as clunky under his foot but not overly heavy, which he says saves them.

jogoncrago went true to size (10.5) in the Saucony Endorphin Trainer.

jogoncrago finds the Saucony Endorphin Trainer fits a little bit roomier and maybe a touch long.

jogoncrago recommends true to size for most people in the Saucony Endorphin Trainer.

jogoncrago finds the Saucony Endorphin Trainer has a little bit more room through the midfoot area, which he says could suit a few more foot shapes.